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Tropical Storm Octave Forecast Discussion Number 4

Published Date and Time: 2025-09-30 22:58:00



Issued at 800 PM MST Tue Sep 30 2025

706 
WTPZ45 KNHC 010257
TCDEP5
 
Tropical Storm Octave Discussion Number   4
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       EP152025
800 PM MST Tue Sep 30 2025
 
Octave remains a sheared tropical cyclone, with the coldest cloud 
tops displaced to the south and west of the low-level center.  The 
latest UW-CIMSS shear analysis indicates about 20 kt of 
east-northeasterly shear over the system.  Despite this shear, 
convection has persisted near the low-level center, and the cyclone 
continues to exhibit well-defined banding on its southern and 
western sides.  The latest subjective Dvorak intensity estimates 
from TAFB and SAB are both 3.0/45 kt, while the UW-CIMSS objective 
estimates have ranged from 33 to 41 kt since the previous advisory. 
Based on a blend of these data, and given little change in the 
overall satellite presentation during the past several hours, the 
initial intensity is held at 40 kt.

Octave is estimated to be moving north-northwestward, or 340 degrees 
at 6 kt.  This general motion is expected to continue tonight and 
Wednesday as the cyclone moves into a weakness in the subtropical 
ridge created by a disturbance to its north.  Once that disturbance 
is absorbed by Octave’s circulation, a mid-level ridge is forecast 
to become re-established to the north of the cyclone, steering it 
westward to west-northwestward from Wednesday night through 
Saturday.  By 120 hours, Octave is expected to slow considerably and 
turn eastward as a longwave trough approaches from the northwest and 
the subtropical ridge to its east is eroded by a developing tropical 
cyclone offshore of southwestern Mexico.  The new NHC track forecast 
is very similar to the previous one through 72 hours and then 
slightly westward by days 4 and 5, accounting for a westward shift 
in the latest guidance.  The forecast lies near the middle of the 
guidance envelope, close to the GDMI aid through 72 hours, and 
roughly midway between the prior track and GDMI aid beyond that 
time.

Octave will remain over warm waters and within a moist environment 
for the next several days.  However, moderate to strong 
east-northeasterly vertical wind shear is expected to hinder 
significant intensification.  Some slight strengthening is possible 
tonight, followed by little change in strength during the next 
couple of days.  Modest intensification is forecast by days 3 and 4 
as the shear is expected to relax somewhat while the cyclone remains 
over warm waters.  By day 5, slight weakening is anticipated as 
Octave moves into a drier mid-level environment and over cooler 
waters near 26C.  Confidence in the intensity forecast remains low 
beyond day 3 due to considerable spread among the guidance.  The 
official forecast is closest to the ECMWF-based SHIPS guidance and 
is very similar to the previous advisory.
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
 
INIT  01/0300Z 10.8N 114.4W   40 KT  45 MPH
 12H  01/1200Z 11.6N 114.5W   45 KT  50 MPH
 24H  02/0000Z 12.5N 115.2W   45 KT  50 MPH
 36H  02/1200Z 13.0N 116.4W   45 KT  50 MPH
 48H  03/0000Z 13.5N 117.6W   45 KT  50 MPH
 60H  03/1200Z 13.9N 119.0W   45 KT  50 MPH
 72H  04/0000Z 14.4N 120.5W   50 KT  60 MPH
 96H  05/0000Z 15.0N 121.9W   55 KT  65 MPH
120H  06/0000Z 15.8N 121.5W   50 KT  60 MPH
 
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Forecaster Jelsema (CPHC)



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